We’re joined by Chunky T from the Utopia Project for a deep (and very funny) dive into creativity, music, art, and growing up bored in a small town. We talk about childhood therapy turning into creativity, early bands, terrible teenage lyrics, playing Seven Nation Army seven times in a living room, discovering Photoshop and why making anything is better than making nothing. We also get into Boston’s creative scene, missed musical opportunities, DVDs as cultural artefacts, AI invading films, and how learning lots of different skills eventually pays off.